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Old 07-16-2004, 05:56 AM
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There is a set pf Long EZ plans, copies in very good condition, for sale here in Australia from an acquaintance. This is what he is asking, I'll be happy to pass on any queries.

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Longez Plans (copied)now $200 USD and $50 USD post

The plans are well bound and are like new paper.

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Old 08-04-2004, 05:37 PM
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Price for the plans has come down!
He is now asking US$150 + $50 postage
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Old 11-15-2004, 01:13 AM
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can anyone help put a value on these?

these are the real deal, although 1980 printing. No cp's. I have an offer from someone to buy me a new set of Cozy plans in exchange. Is this fair?
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Old 11-15-2004, 01:16 AM
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ps. the reason the first 3 sheets are cut out, is that I built the bulkheads, but stopped when my son was born.
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:28 AM
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can anyone help put a value on these?

these are the real deal, although 1980 printing. No cp's. I have an offer from someone to buy me a new set of Cozy plans in exchange. Is this fair?
I also have a set of LE plans with many or most of the cp's. I don't think theres any pages missing. If you want Cozy plans, I'd say yes, take the deal asuming they're from ACS and not the discount vendor.

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Old 11-15-2004, 07:30 PM
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I've seen incomplete (as in barely started, with bits lost/broken/left in the sun/untouched for 20 years) going for alarming prices (more than Cozy plans + materials on offer). Your Long plans may be worth more than the Cozy plans, market wise, but I would say its a fair offer.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:11 AM
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Why build a Long-EZ when you could build a Cozy 4

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Old 11-16-2004, 06:55 AM
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Well Doggy, that's a bit like saying why buy a Monaro when you can buy a Commodore.

Erm, I'd translate that for the forum majority, but know sod-all about Septic cars, except you call the Monaro a Pontiac GTO.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:03 PM
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Well Doggy, that's a bit like saying why buy a Monaro when you can buy a Commodore.

Erm, I'd translate that for the forum majority, but know sod-all about Septic cars, except you call the Monaro a Pontiac GTO.

Your talking FORD VS HOLDEN not LE VS COZY tottelly differant.

One hols 2 and the other holds 4

A littel more effort and time and you get 4 seats with a Cozy 4

The Long-Ez days are over, its the Cozy time now.

Long live the Cozy

Down with Long-Ez

I must say i did consider building a Long_Ez but the Cozy i feel is more of a better bet.

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Old 11-16-2004, 12:30 PM
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The Long-Ez days are over, its the Cozy time now.

Long live the Cozy

Down with Long-Ez

I must say i did consider building a Long_Ez but the Cozy i feel is more of a better bet.
Ok, Long-EZs are really cool, and if no one is really ever riding with you why do you need a four place?

On the other hand, how much more work, and money is a Cozy than a Long EZ. I would wager the build time and effort, as well as the money required are about the same.

I am designing and building a 6+1 design (or a 4+3) canard aircraft based on the EZ family of planes. Because I want a cross country canard that will carry my family. Anyway I want to build and fly one first so that I get that experience with a proven design before I create one of my own. If a Long EZ comes together a lot faster than a Cozy MKIV I would be convinced to build one of those while I am designing and building the SixZ. Right now the plan is to start Building a MK IV ASAP.

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Old 11-18-2004, 01:09 AM
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well, you know - at least in a long ez you can throw the airplane around if you like. Cozy's are "normal" catagory - no acro at all - acording to the Nat-ster's writings.

With almot 500 hours in pitts and 8KCAB, I would really like to just be able to roll here and there. Positive G type stuff.

Anyway, was really considering adding 4-6" onto the seat back, inst panel bulkheads and continuing with the long. I just like the tandem fighter style. Cozy's seem more the family travelin truckster.

Anyone ever thought about - - hang on, I think I might get kicked out of the forum for even thinking this way - well here it goes -

of taking space out of a cozy? IE, make it a real comfortable 30-35" wide tandem aircraft? More instrument panel, wide arm rests/sub panels - more like a military plane?

May be way off base here, but it did cross my mind.

Oh well - guess there are plenty of F-111, B-1B, T-37 drivers around who would argue that side-by-side is better than tandem....
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:01 AM
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Cool Cozy Pick-up

I am of the opinion that change of any kind takes more time.

More time changing = More time building

More time building = More time testing changes

More time pre-flight = more time TILL flight

More time till flight = less flying time

I am building to fly and the [flying] aircraft is my own personal time machine. Y'know, point "a" to point "b". Much less than in a "Commodore" or even airlines, given the situation with security and parking, luggage and distance from major airports to intended destinations, and lest we all forget, LAYovers!
So to add to the plans so much that it takes away from my primary objective is counter-productive. Some are worth it and will save time later.

But, I also considered the Long EZ. It didn't carry the weight I wanted. I almost bought a flying EZ, but chickened out because I couldn't take 2 people and tools. Good thing too, it crashed 2 months later.
I don't really plan to stuff the Cozy with folks and cruise the country, I may put 3 in at most. But mainly I want to use it for a Pickup truck. 100 lb of tools and parts and me possibly another person.

Too bad I can put a tailgate on it.
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Old 11-18-2004, 08:51 PM
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But mainly I want to use it for a Pickup truck. 100 lb of tools and parts and me possibly another person.

Too bad I can put a tailgate on it.
Hey.....(pushes his hat back on his head)....you shure you ain't from TEXAS?
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Old 11-27-2004, 01:43 AM
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This is not mine - but might be interesting to see what EZ plans are going for these days.

He is sure putting alot of stress on the CP hard copies, but TERF searchable cd rom is the REAL way to go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=63679
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:13 PM
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those ebay plans are over $1,000 now. Looks like it closes tomorow - can't wait for the last minute run-up.
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